DeepSeek's Leaked Investor Meeting Halted a $1.4 Billion Funding Round
A closed-door meeting in May 2026 leaked in July. Bloomberg reports the second funding round is paused. What Liang Wenfeng actually said — on pricing, open source, AGI, talent, and the compute gap with America.
DeepSeek's Leaked Investor Meeting Halted a $1.4 Billion Funding Round
Published July 27, 2026
In May 2026, DeepSeek founder Liang Wenfeng held a closed-door meeting with the company's investors. He gave a lengthy presentation followed by an extended Q&A session. The meeting was not meant to be recorded or documented in any way.
On July 22, 2026, someone compiled the nearly four-hour audio recording into a summary and published it as a self-media article on WeChat. Mainstream outlets picked it up within hours, and the transcript spread rapidly across Chinese media platforms. It was removed almost immediately — articles were pulled from WeChat within hours of publication — but screenshots continued to circulate in private group chats.
On July 25, Bloomberg reported that Liang was dissatisfied with the leak. DeepSeek orally notified some prospective investors in its second funding round that the deal was paused, with no signing expected in the coming days. The company did not terminate the round entirely.
An unnamed insider later told Sina Tech that the connection between the leak and the funding pause was "not credible," calling external reports "mostly false or speculative." Bloomberg's reporting, however, cited multiple people familiar with the matter.
The first round had closed in June 2026 at approximately $7.4 billion, with participants including Tencent, CATL, JD.com, NetEase, IDG Capital, and China's national AI industry fund. The second round was targeting at least $1.4 billion at a valuation of approximately $66 billion.
What follows is a summary of the key points Liang Wenfeng made during the meeting, based on the full transcript.
DeepSeek closed its first external round, pure RMB structure, ~100 institutions/individuals participated (through fund structures). 10 named participants: Monolith 3B, IDG 3B, Guozhi 980M, CATL ecosystem (Puquan Capital), Loyal Valley Capital. Hillhouse/HSG absent. Liang's top requirement: don't poach DeepSeek's people. elsewhere confirmed the round but did not disclose specific totals; $7.4B/$50B from English tech media.
1. DeepSeek was never built to maximize profit
Liang opened by stating that the company was founded without any intention of maximizing financial returns. There was no IPO plan and no exit strategy. He said the first few dozen employees would not have joined if they had been motivated primarily by money.
He cited former GE CEO Jack Welch's view that a company's most important asset is its vision — not its organizational structure or performance metrics. "Vision isn't a slogan on the wall," Liang said. "Vision is how you actually operate."
He described DeepSeek's internal organization as minimal: no KPIs, no formal performance reviews, no traditional hierarchy. Decisions are made through consensus. His own authority, he said, is "built on consensus, not position."
The concept he returned to most frequently throughout the meeting was what he called "strategic restraint" (克制). He framed this not as a moral position but as a strategic calculation: the more a company grasps for short-term gains, the lower its probability of achieving AGI.
2. The API is priced to recover hardware costs in ten months
The most concrete expression of this restraint is DeepSeek's pricing model. The company's API is priced so that server hardware costs are recovered within ten months — approximately a 6x margin.
To contextualize this: DeepSeek V4 Flash is priced at $0.14 per million input tokens. By comparison, Claude Sonnet 5 is priced at $3.00 per million input tokens, and GPT-5.6 Luna at $1.00. DeepSeek is roughly one-twentieth the price of Claude for comparable capability, according to CSDN's API pricing comparison and developer.puter.com.
Liang acknowledged that demand at this price point is "completely inelastic" — they could double the price without losing users. They have chosen not to. He framed short-term revenue maximization as "going after the appetizers when the main course hasn't even been served yet," referring to the much larger opportunity he sees in AGI.
| Vendor | Model | Region | Input (USD/M) | Output (USD/M) | Context | Tier | Source |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| DeepSeek | V4-Pro | Domestic | $0.44 | $0.88 | 1M | Flagship | api-docs.deepseek.com |
| DeepSeek | V4-Flash | Domestic | $0.15 | $0.29 | 1M | Pro | api-docs.deepseek.com |
| Zhipu AI | GLM-5.2 | Domestic | $1.18 | $4.13 | 1M | Flagship | open.bigmodel.cn |
| Zhipu AI | GLM-5.1 | Domestic | $0.88 | $3.54 | 128K | Pro | open.bigmodel.cn |
| Kimi (Moonshot) | K3 | Domestic | $2.95 | $14.7 | 1M | Flagship | platform.kimi.com |
| Kimi (Moonshot) | K2.7 Code | Domestic | $0.96 | $3.98 | 256K | Pro | platform.kimi.com |
| Xiaomi MiMo | MiMo-V2.5-Pro | Domestic | $0.44 | $0.88 | 1M | Flagship | mimo.mi.com |
| Xiaomi MiMo | MiMo-V2.5 | Domestic | $0.15 | $0.29 | 1M | Pro | mimo.mi.com |
| MiniMax | M3 | Domestic | $0.62 | $2.48 | 512K | Flagship | platform.minimaxi.com |
| MiniMax | M2.7 | Domestic | $0.31 | $1.24 | 245K | Pro | platform.minimaxi.com |
| Qwen (Alibaba) | Qwen3.7-Max | Domestic | $1.77 | $5.31 | 1M | Flagship | help.aliyun.com |
| Qwen (Alibaba) | Qwen3.6-Max-Preview | Domestic | $1.33 | $7.96 | 256K | Pro | help.aliyun.com |
| Tencent Hunyuan | Hunyuan-role-latest | Domestic | $0.35 | $1.42 | 256K | Flagship | cloud.tencent.com |
| Tencent Hunyuan | Hunyuan-a13b | Domestic | $0.074 | $0.29 | 256K | Pro | cloud.tencent.com |
| ByteDance Doubao | Seed-Evolving | Domestic | $0.88 | $4.42 | 256K | Flagship | volcengine.com |
| ByteDance Doubao | Seed-2.1-Turbo | Domestic | $0.44 | $2.21 | 128K | Pro | volcengine.com |
| OpenAI | GPT-5.6-Sol | Overseas | $5.00 | $30.0 | 1M | Flagship | platform.openai.com |
| OpenAI | GPT-5.6-Terra | Overseas | $2.50 | $15.0 | 1M | Pro | platform.openai.com |
| Anthropic | Claude Fable 5 | Overseas | $10.0 | $50.0 | 1M | Flagship | docs.anthropic.com |
| Anthropic | Claude Opus 5 | Overseas | $5.00 | $25.0 | 1M | Pro | docs.anthropic.com |
| Google Gemini | Gemini 3.1 Pro Preview | Overseas | $2.00 | $12.0 | 1M | Flagship | ai.google.dev |
| Google Gemini | Gemini 2.5 Pro | Overseas | $1.25 | $10.0 | 1M | Pro | ai.google.dev |
| xAI (Grok) | Grok 4.5 | Overseas | $2.00 | $6.00 | 500K | Flagship | docs.x.ai |
| xAI (Grok) | Grok 4.3 | Overseas | $1.25 | $2.50 | 1M | Pro | docs.x.ai |
DeepSeek · Zhipu AI · Kimi · Xiaomi MiMo · MiniMax · Qwen · Tencent Hunyuan · ByteDance Doubao
OpenAI · Anthropic · Google Gemini · xAI Grok
3. The strongest models are open-sourced — same weights as production
Liang drew a direct contrast between DeepSeek's approach to open source and that of other Chinese AI labs. He characterized competitors' open-source releases as feeling "forced," while stating that for DeepSeek, open source is the original intent.
His reasoning was structural: AI will ultimately represent such a large share of global economic output — he suggested potentially ten percent of GDP — that no single entity can monopolize it. He described attempted monopoly as not merely unethical but impossible, arguing that history would "discard" any company that tried.
He confirmed that DeepSeek's strongest models are open-sourced with weights identical to those used in production. There is no inferior public version. He also stated that the company actively assists competitors in deploying its models, and that his concern is not competition but rather incorrect deployment leading to poor results.
What makes open source safe for DeepSeek, Liang stressed repeatedly, is something he returned to more than any other topic in the meeting: cost. He estimated that competitors like Alibaba or Tencent, lacking DeepSeek's engineering optimization, would face deployment costs several times higher. He drew an analogy to BYD's batteries — at the same technical level, can others match that price? "That's quite hard," he said. "Not easy to achieve — it's definitely a barrier."
At a 6x margin, he argued, even if competitors deploy the open-sourced weights themselves, their cost structure makes them uncompetitive. Open source therefore has no meaningful revenue impact — not because DeepSeek is generous, but because its cost advantage is structural.
4. AGI is a staircase, and the next step is continuous learning
Liang described DeepSeek's technical roadmap as a staircase with six steps, each building on the previous:
- Language models (foundation)
- Chain of Thought / CoT (last year's breakthrough; surpassed top humans at math and coding, but hit a ceiling)
- Agents (this year's step; broader capability, higher intelligence ceiling)
- Continuous learning (the next bottleneck)
- Self-iteration (the model develops its own next version)
- Embodied AI (AI operating in the physical world; last, not first)
He explained continuous learning with an analogy: a new employee spends two months learning a company's context and then "just gets it" — you can say "ask Xiao Wang to come over" and they know who that is. Current AI cannot do this; it requires every piece of context to be provided explicitly.
He emphasized that the order matters. Solving continuous learning first, then self-iteration, then embodied AI means the later steps essentially complete themselves — the model builds what comes next. Reversing the order would be unnecessarily difficult.
Based on this roadmap, DeepSeek does not pursue video generation or world models. Liang noted that after Sora's launch, many companies invested heavily in video generation, then quietly abandoned those projects. He characterized multimodal capability as "a component, not the mainline," and confirmed that V4 and subsequent versions will support native multimodal.
On scaling, he stated that DeepSeek has not encountered any ceiling. The constraint is compute, not algorithm.
5. Users and revenue are byproducts, not the goal
Liang stated that neither consumer users nor enterprise revenue are objectives for DeepSeek. Both are, in his framing, byproducts of the AGI research path.
He noted that the company operates its API business with no sales team and no customer support. A small number of people maintain the service. He described this as a structural advantage: operating at a higher technical altitude makes lower-altitude problems comparatively easy.
On the competitive endgame, he identified three final differentiators between AI labs: cost (primary), timing (secondary), and user experience (tertiary). He also noted that if API revenue reaches $1 billion annually, it would cover all of DeepSeek's R&D and operating costs — achievable, he said, but not the priority.
6. The only thing DeepSeek refuses to lose is its team
Asked to identify the company's single non-negotiable interest, Liang answered immediately: team stability. "As long as I can maintain team stability, we will achieve AGI. It's that simple." He stated that money and resources are not problems; the only existential risk is the team breaking apart.
This concern is not abstract. When DeepSeek published its V4 technical report in April 2026, it credited nearly 300 contributors and marked 10 as already departed. Named departures include:
- Wang Bingxuan — core author of DeepSeek's first-generation language model; joined Tencent
- Guo Daya — R1 core researcher (DeepSeek Coder, DeepSeek Math); joined ByteDance Seed team
- Luo Fuli — core contributor to DeepSeek V2; joined Xiaomi
- Wei Haoran — core author of DeepSeek OCR model series
- Ruan Chong — core multimodal researcher; joined DeepRoute.ai
These departures, reported by Sina Finance and NetEase, span base models, reasoning, OCR, and multimodal — essentially every major technical line. Chinese media characterized DeepSeek as a training ground for AI talent that larger companies subsequently recruit.
Liang said the recent funding round helped mitigate this risk, as equity grants are now substantial. He noted that retention of the most senior employees is the key variable: if they stay, everyone else stays.
Key Background
- Zero External Funding: DeepSeek refused all external investment, solely funded by parent company High-Flyer Quant's profits
- Salary Gap: Competitors offer 2-3x DeepSeek's compensation, some with 8-figure total packages
- Equity Issues: Employee stock options lack valuation support, near-zero liquidity
- Four Tech Lines Hit: Five departures drained base model, reasoning, OCR, and multimodal teams
- First Fundraising: DeepSeek is conducting its first external round (~70B RMB), primarily to retain employees
- Industry Context: China's AI talent gap exceeds 5.8M, core tech roles gap exceeds 800K
Disclaimer: Information compiled from public media reports. V4 report marks 10 as "departed"; public reports name only 5 core members. Wei Haoran's move to "Baidu (suspected)" is inferred from a 36kr report.
7. The gap with America is compute, not talent
On the question of China's gap with American frontier labs, Liang was direct: the difference is compute, not talent or algorithm.
DeepSeek currently operates approximately 20,000 H-equivalent GPUs, most of which arrived in the preceding two months. To train a model at frontier American scale — 800 billion active parameters — he estimated a requirement of 200,000 cards (GB300 or Huawei 950), for training alone, excluding research compute.
He stated that even deploying the company's full capital reserves — roughly $7.4 billion (50 billion yuan at current exchange rates) — would be insufficient at that scale. DeepSeek is therefore focusing on maximizing experiments within the tens-of-billions activation parameter range.
His capital allocation strategy is straightforward: purchase every available GPU at a reasonable price. If the funds are fully deployed within six months, he considers that the best possible outcome.
8. China's chip ecosystem problem is about to be solved
On domestic semiconductors, Liang expressed genuine optimism. He argued that Nvidia's CUDA ecosystem moat is eroding for three reasons: AI can now generate compatible ecosystem code; DeepSeek has built a high-level compiler called TileLang capable of rewriting the full CUDA software stack; and dedicated AI chips no longer require backwards compatibility with gaming GPU architectures.
He predicted that within one year, the prevailing perception that Chinese chips have an inadequate ecosystem will be disproven. Specifically regarding Huawei: the 950 supernode can match Nvidia's GB200/GB300 in all tasks, with the tradeoff that four Huawei chips equal one Nvidia chip in performance, and the generation gap is approximately two years.
He stated that DeepSeek does not intend to design its own chips, analogizing: "If you run a power plant, you don't need to manufacture the generators."
His broader view: China's long-term role in global AI will likely mirror its role in manufacturing — highest volume, lowest price, comparable quality.
9. My Take: Why this leak cost DeepSeek a funding round
Three factors explain why this leak apparently paused a billion-dollar deal.
First, Liang Wenfeng is one of the most secretive founders in technology. He has given virtually no interviews, made no public appearances, and declined all media requests even after DeepSeek's R1 model drew global attention. He has reportedly rejected three consecutive years of U.S. academic exchange invitations. Four hours of unfiltered internal talk spreading across the internet is, for someone who has spent years controlling exactly how little the world knows about him, the worst-case scenario.
Second, the transcript contains direct, named criticism of competitors — Zhipu's open source feels "forced," ByteDance's closed-source model has "no visible advantage," Alibaba and Tencent's costs are "several times higher." In Chinese business culture, having those comments become public in his own words is genuinely damaging to those relationships.
Third, the transcript discloses commercially sensitive information: specific GPU stockpile numbers that differ from prior market rumors, and a detailed pricing logic (ten-month hardware recovery, 6x margin, inelastic demand) that competitors would pay to know.
An unnamed insider told Sina Tech the leak-funding connection was "not credible," calling external reports "mostly false or speculative." Bloomberg's reporting cited multiple people familiar with the matter.
Sources
- Bloomberg — "DeepSeek Said to Tell Backers of Funding Pause After Viral Posts" (Haze Fan & Pei Li, July 25, 2026)
- Original meeting transcript (audio recording, May 20, 2026; AI-transcribed and cleaned, July 16, 2026)
- DeepSeek V4 technical report (April 2026)
- Sina Finance — "寻找DeepSeek梁文锋" (March 4, 2025)
- Sina Finance — "DeepSeek-V4技术报告公开作者名单,多位核心骨干被挖" (April 28, 2026)
- NetEase — "DeepSeek-V4作者名单公布:10名离职大将在内" (April 27, 2026)
- CSDN — "2026年AI模型API价格多少钱?GPT/Claude/DeepSeek费用对比" (June 2026)
- developer.puter.com — "DeepSeek API Pricing: Full Breakdown" (June 2026)
- MyDrivers — "纪要外泄被曝致DeepSeek叫停第二轮融资,内部人士回应:不可信" (July 2026)
- Toutiao — "梁文锋连续三年拒绝美国学术交流邀请" (2026)